Hello comrade. I don't know if we have talked before.
Me:
Hi. How are things?
Gabriel Barreto:
normal
Me:
I see.
Gabriel Barreto:
And you?
Me:
Our cat died so I am upset about that. Another thing I am doing is getting ready for the Electrical Foundations Course in September at the British Columbia Institute of Technology (BCIT). Also, read Teamster Power by Farrell Dobbs and The Problems of the Chinese Revolution by Leon Trotsky.
Gabriel Barreto:
Sorry about your cat. Is it the one on the image?
Me:
Yes.
Gabriel Barreto:
I remember to have read you saying you were a spart. Is my memory correct?
Me:
Yes I was from about 2005 to 2008.
Gabriel Barreto:
Are you in a party today?
Me:
I am a sympathizer for the International Bolshevik Tendency but not a member of any party.
Gabriel Barreto:
I see.
What do you think of Revolutionary Regroupment?
You don't need to write an academic dissertation ://
Me:
I have disagreements with them when it comes to the Bolshevik Tendency. I have had several run-ins with Sam Trachtenberg he seems to support age descrimination and sees nothing wrong with killing disabled people. To be fair, that may just be him and not the Rio group (it appears the Rio group cut ties with him when he change the website and email password without the other members permission). He also tends to make ad hominem attacks against people (including myself) and avoids political engagement. As for the Rio group, they were saying that Jason Wright has ties with Department of Homeland Security. I don't think this allegation is accurate and I have yet to see any evidence in the five years the allegation came out. If they thought that and are wrong it is probably best to apologize rather than double down. Obviously people make mistakes, including myself and others on the left but it makes sense to acknowledge one's mistakes. As for Sam leaving the IBT, he resigned and was never expelled. I have read the IBT internal documents and I think the IBT was as reasonable as they could with him. Another thing one the Revolutionary Regroupment website it stuff by Phil Fergusan saying that Bill Logan is a sociopath and that the ICL was supposedly reasonable. Frankly, I think the ICL is as rotten as it gets. As wrong as Logan was, his behaviour was no different from the rest of the ICL leadership, then and now. I also don't buy the ICL claim that Bill Logan is a sociopath for one thing they can't even define sociopath.
Gabriel Barreto:
I see. Any political differences? After discussing with Sam T and the "rio group" (which is an inaccurate title now). I do believe Sam T is in the wrong.
Me:
I haven't gotten around to reading there stuff. As for the term "Rio group" I wasn't sure the best term to use. As both they and Sam call themselves Revolurionay Regroupment.
Gabriel Barreto:
I don't buy into the IBT. I've read the Coletivo Lenin's documents on them. I wonder how the IBT justifies their destruction of the group.
Me
I'm not as familiar with that. I don't speak Portuguese so basically have to go with Google translate. It seems that they have issues with the IBT but also Sam Trachtenberg and the people who split with them to join Sam. Perhaps the translation wasn't very good.
Gabriel Barreto:
The CL was politically aligned to the IBT. The CL wanted to conduct ideological discussions with the IBT, because the CL had some bizarre theories that weren't in the IBT's program
Me:
As for the Coletivo Lenin issue, I would need to hear the perspective of all the parties. This would include not only Trachtenberg and Revolutionary Regroupment but also the IBT and Coletivo Lenin. Of course, there is also a language barrier. Right now I don't have all the facts.
Gabriel Barreto:
The IBT reached one of the fractions of the CL, in hopes of convincing them to split the CL and having a Brazilian section The CL was horrorized by that most of the CL ended up abandoning the trotskyist program and then politics except what is today the rio group, one militant which entered the LCFI's FCT, and perhaps a few more which still see themselves as CL. You might also call the rio group the continuation of the CL. That's their version of the facts
Me:
I see. I apologize for the slow replies. I am currently going through stuff for my job training.
Gabriel Barreto:
It's ok
13/09/2017, 19:51
Gabriel Barreto:
Comrade, do you know any texts from the SL or the IBT about high school students and struggle?
Me:
I will have to take a look into it.
Gabriel Barreto:
Thanks
18 May 2018, 03:59
Gabriel Barreto:
Ah. Nice blog. I wonder why you didn't share it with me before Wow. Publishing your actual conversation with Icaro was not very smart Unfortunate of you to have to defend the IBT 18 May 2018, 06:38
Gabriel Barreto:
Looking back to our previous conversations, you were quite dishonest.
18 May 2018, 08:41
Me:
I had actually written those articles before we were facebook friends. I had in a different blog with those articles but then moved them.
As for the interaction between Icaro Kaleb he did initially click like on bunch of posts of posts of mine by the IBT. I messaged him told him who I was and I was subjected to a lure the birdy out and shoot it. To be entirely frank, I think Icaro Kaleb and his buddies are dishonest.
Gabriel Barreto:
That is not the impression I get from the conversation you yourself published.
Me:
As for being "dishonest", I will admit to having plenty of character flaws but being dishonest was never one of them.
Gabriel Barreto:
And your behavior towards me make me distrustful of you.
You did handle the question by avoiding to voice your opinions or that you had opinions at all. Or even that you had previous exchanges with the RR
That is dishonest in my books.
"As for the Coletivo Lenin issue, I would need to hear the perspective of all the parties. This would include not only Trachtenberg and Revolutionary Regroupment but also the IBT and Coletivo Lenin. Of course, there is also a language barrier. Right now I don't have all the facts."
Except you clearly had
You clearly had heard the perspective of all of the parties.
Me:
I was referring to the fallout between the IBT and Coletivo Lenin.
If anything my not posting that blog was me not wanting to rock the boat.
I am actually surprised Revolutionary Regroupment didn't tell you I was "personae non grata".
Gabriel Barreto:
They don't have a problem with me talking to whomever I want, different from all the other groups which I talked to and which where trying to recruit me.
Me:
They didn't like me before we were facebook friends. That is what I meant.
Gabriel Barreto:
So you either were dishonest by not voicing your opinion, or you are just admitting to not defend consistent marxist politics, simply ignoring when someone contacted you to discuss a group you describe with a lot of "bad words" lmao.
Me:
Well neither of those are true. My blogs were hardly secret. You asked me what I thought of them and I told you I had several issues with them.
In hindsight I probably should have shown you my blog posts. So I apologize for any problems this has caused. My blogs are generally meant as opinion pieces.
23:39
For the record, your insinuation that I am dishonest is itself dishonest. You are just mad that I criticized your precious little (and rather misnamed) “Revolutionary Regroupment”. If you can’t dismiss the message dismiss the messenger, as the saying goes. I also notice you employ the “silence equals guilt” line of reasoning (a tactic employed by the Sparts). Oh and I heard you were trying to recruit homophobes a while back. Also, you want to talk dishonest, what do you call your group snitchjacketing the IBT. Perhaps you should take an honest look at the group you joined rather spitting acid in my face.
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